Discussion:
[Pdweb] community section modifications
Nicolas Montgermont
2012-02-26 15:09:04 UTC
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Hello all,

After examining the community section, here is what i plan to do:

* pdwikiwiki : change state to private
* deleted wiki page : change state to private

* add folder : member downloads
- move : Pd art / Pd patches / Pd music / Pd logos inside the "member
downloads" folder
- add in this folder a "Pd projects" smart folder that list all content
with the "project" tag

* move the organization folder and the patching circles wikis in a
common "meetings" folder.

* Remove the "Projects" folder, for that
- remove the automatic listing of "Project" tag (why is this listing
different projects when we are logged in?)
- remove duplicate folders of the 3 conventions
- move "Paradiddle", "Rradical" and "Assembling dedicated pd computer"
in the "member downloads/Pd projects" page
- move the "Software" to a root "/software" folder
- what is the state of the exhibition folder here only accessible to
members?? Is it somehow related to the root "exhibiton" folder or can it
be simply deleted

add redirections, specially for the download section.

In a second step, i'ld like to try to use page to describe local
contents instead of "Frontpage" element. I'd first test in some testing
subfolder before to modifiy existing folders. But I think the layout of
a page is much more simple than the layout of a wiki "Frontpage",
specially when we are not logged in.

Please, if you are ok with that or not, tell me. Same if you see
something else, or if you see something to add aor to remove.
I'd like to work on it these days, after that i won't have much time.

Can one of the other admin do the most dangerous part:
- move the "community/projects/software" folder to a root "/software" folder
and adding a redirection from community/projects/software to that folder?

Best
n
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Hans-Christoph Steiner
2012-02-26 19:06:38 UTC
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Post by Nicolas Montgermont
Hello all,
* pdwikiwiki : change state to private
* deleted wiki page : change state to private
* add folder : member downloads
- move : Pd art / Pd patches / Pd music / Pd logos inside the "member downloads" folder
- add in this folder a "Pd projects" smart folder that list all content with the "project" tag
* move the organization folder and the patching circles wikis in a common "meetings" folder.
I think that 'meetings' isn't quite the right word. To me, it sounds like meetings at work. Perhaps 'Meet-ups'? 'Local Groups'?
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* Remove the "Projects" folder, for that
- remove the automatic listing of "Project" tag (why is this listing different projects when we are logged in?)
I think the difference is due to the publication status of the various pages.
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
- remove duplicate folders of the 3 conventions
- move "Paradiddle", "Rradical" and "Assembling dedicated pd computer" in the "member downloads/Pd projects" page
- move the "Software" to a root "/software" folder
The software section is currently aliased to /downloads/ so I think it should be moved there, then we can make /community/projects/software/ an alias for /downloads/

http://puredata.info/downloads/
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
- what is the state of the exhibition folder here only accessible to members?? Is it somehow related to the root "exhibiton" folder or can it be simply deleted
Where is this, I don't see it?
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
add redirections, specially for the download section.
In a second step, i'ld like to try to use page to describe local contents instead of "Frontpage" element. I'd first test in some testing subfolder before to modifiy existing folders. But I think the layout of a page is much more simple than the layout of a wiki "Frontpage", specially when we are not logged in.
Please, if you are ok with that or not, tell me. Same if you see something else, or if you see something to add aor to remove.
I'd like to work on it these days, after that i won't have much time.
- move the "community/projects/software" folder to a root "/software" folder
and adding a redirection from community/projects/software to that folder?
I can take this on.

.hc


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Nicolas Montgermont
2012-02-26 20:27:10 UTC
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i answer in the mail
Post by Hans-Christoph Steiner
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* move the organization folder and the patching circles wikis in a common "meetings" folder.
I think that 'meetings' isn't quite the right word. To me, it sounds like meetings at work. Perhaps 'Meet-ups'? 'Local Groups'?
"local groups" sounds good. There is still a last thing I'm not sure how
to manage. How the wiki hierarchy is created? For example here in the
community folder, "Patching Circles" is a subtopic, and then "London
patching Circle" a subsubtopic. How is this created? Do I destroy this
hierarchy if i move all the wikis pages in another folder?
Post by Hans-Christoph Steiner
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* Remove the "Projects" folder, for that
- remove the automatic listing of "Project" tag (why is this listing different projects when we are logged in?)
I think the difference is due to the publication status of the various pages.
you must be right.
Post by Hans-Christoph Steiner
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
- move the "Software" to a root "/software" folder
The software section is currently aliased to /downloads/ so I think it should be moved there, then we can make /community/projects/software/ an alias for /downloads/
http://puredata.info/downloads/
sure.
Post by Hans-Christoph Steiner
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
- what is the state of the exhibition folder here only accessible to members?? Is it somehow related to the root "exhibiton" folder or can it be simply deleted
Where is this, I don't see it?
here:
http://puredata.info/community/projects/exhibition/
it's listed in the projects folder only where you are logged in.
Post by Hans-Christoph Steiner
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
- move the "community/projects/software" folder to a root "/software" folder
and adding a redirection from community/projects/software to that folder?
I can take this on.
cool!

Thanks for your answers.
Best,
n
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http://nim.on.free.fr
Hans-Christoph Steiner
2012-02-26 21:59:12 UTC
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Post by Nicolas Montgermont
i answer in the mail
Post by Hans-Christoph Steiner
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* move the organization folder and the patching circles wikis in a common "meetings" folder.
I think that 'meetings' isn't quite the right word. To me, it sounds like meetings at work. Perhaps 'Meet-ups'? 'Local Groups'?
"local groups" sounds good. There is still a last thing I'm not sure how to manage. How the wiki hierarchy is created? For example here in the community folder, "Patching Circles" is a subtopic, and then "London patching Circle" a subsubtopic. How is this created? Do I destroy this hierarchy if i move all the wikis pages in another folder?
If you look at the bottom of any wiki page, you can see the text field with a "reparent" button next to it. That's how you set the parent wiki page. I am not sure if moving them will mess that up, but reparenting isn't hard.
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
Post by Hans-Christoph Steiner
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* Remove the "Projects" folder, for that
- remove the automatic listing of "Project" tag (why is this listing different projects when we are logged in?)
I think the difference is due to the publication status of the various pages.
you must be right.
Post by Hans-Christoph Steiner
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
- move the "Software" to a root "/software" folder
The software section is currently aliased to /downloads/ so I think it should be moved there, then we can make /community/projects/software/ an alias for /downloads/
http://puredata.info/downloads/
sure.
Post by Hans-Christoph Steiner
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
- what is the state of the exhibition folder here only accessible to members?? Is it somehow related to the root "exhibiton" folder or can it be simply deleted
Where is this, I don't see it?
http://puredata.info/community/projects/exhibition/
it's listed in the projects folder only where you are logged in.
That is a remnant of the process of creating http://puredata.info/exhibition I think it can be deleted.

.hc
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
Post by Hans-Christoph Steiner
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
- move the "community/projects/software" folder to a root "/software" folder
and adding a redirection from community/projects/software to that folder?
I can take this on.
cool!
Thanks for your answers.
Best,
n
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Nicolas Montgermont
2012-02-27 13:45:18 UTC
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Hello,

I've done what we said except the "Projects" part, cause I prefer to
wait for the software section to move.
At the moment I've deleted *nothing* so if you don't like it please speak.
More comments in the mail.
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* pdwikiwiki : change state to private
* deleted wiki page : change state to private
at the moment, i've only made them unvisible to the navigation.
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* add folder : member downloads
- move : Pd art / Pd patches / Pd music / Pd logos inside the "member
downloads" folder
- add in this folder a "Pd projects" smart folder that list all
content with the "project" tag
ok
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* move the organization folder and the patching circles wikis in a
common "meetings" folder.
ok. in the local group folder. I've kept the shape and hierarchy of
existing content.
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* Remove the "Projects" folder, for that
- remove the automatic listing of "Project" tag (why is this listing
different projects when we are logged in?)
- remove duplicate folders of the 3 conventions
- move "Paradiddle", "Rradical" and "Assembling dedicated pd computer"
in the "member downloads/Pd projects" page
- move the "Software" to a root "/software" folder
- what is the state of the exhibition folder here only accessible to
members?? Is it somehow related to the root "exhibiton" folder or can
it be simply deleted
waiting a bit.
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
add redirections, specially for the download section.
I'm not sure how to do that. I'd like to make redirection for example from
http://puredata.info/community/patches
towards:
http://puredata.info/community/member-downloads/patches
but i'm not sure how to do it.

This tutorial:
http://puredata.info/docs/sitedocs/MakingARedirectOrAlias
only explain how to redirect a folder. but what about a page or a smart
folder? and for a folder, is the only text to change
"THE_PAGE_TO_REDIRECT_TO"?,
for example:
THE_PAGE_TO_REDIRECT_TO ->
http://puredata.info/community/member-downloads/patches
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
In a second step, i'ld like to try to use page to describe local
contents instead of "Frontpage" element. I'd first test in some
testing subfolder before to modifiy existing folders. But I think the
layout of a page is much more simple than the layout of a wiki
"Frontpage", specially when we are not logged in.
I've tested that on a few folders. For example :
http://puredata.info/community
When we are not logged in, the layout is much more clear.
But can every logged member still edit this page?

When we are ok on all that, i can add a few content in the "site doc"
section. For example:
- how to add a local patching circle?

to keep things well organized.

Best
n
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András Murányi
2012-02-27 19:30:41 UTC
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On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 14:45, Nicolas Montgermont <
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
[...]
In a second step, i'ld like to try to use page to describe local contents
instead of "Frontpage" element. I'd first test in some testing subfolder
before to modifiy existing folders. But I think the layout of a page is
much more simple than the layout of a wiki "Frontpage", specially when we
are not logged in.
http://puredata.info/community
When we are not logged in, the layout is much more clear.
But can every logged member still edit this page?
seems so!

Andr?s
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Marco Donnarumma
2012-02-28 23:41:05 UTC
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Already a very good job Nicolas,
thanks.

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Post by András Murányi
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 14:45, Nicolas Montgermont <
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
[...]
In a second step, i'ld like to try to use page to describe local contents
instead of "Frontpage" element. I'd first test in some testing subfolder
before to modifiy existing folders. But I think the layout of a page is
much more simple than the layout of a wiki "Frontpage", specially when we
are not logged in.
http://puredata.info/community
When we are not logged in, the layout is much more clear.
But can every logged member still edit this page?
seems so!
Andr?s
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Hans-Christoph Steiner
2012-03-01 02:35:42 UTC
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Post by Nicolas Montgermont
Hello,
I've done what we said except the "Projects" part, cause I prefer to wait for the software section to move.
At the moment I've deleted *nothing* so if you don't like it please speak.
More comments in the mail.
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* pdwikiwiki : change state to private
* deleted wiki page : change state to private
at the moment, i've only made them unvisible to the navigation.
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* add folder : member downloads
- move : Pd art / Pd patches / Pd music / Pd logos inside the "member downloads" folder
- add in this folder a "Pd projects" smart folder that list all content with the "project" tag
ok
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* move the organization folder and the patching circles wikis in a common "meetings" folder.
ok. in the local group folder. I've kept the shape and hierarchy of existing content.
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
* Remove the "Projects" folder, for that
- remove the automatic listing of "Project" tag (why is this listing different projects when we are logged in?)
- remove duplicate folders of the 3 conventions
- move "Paradiddle", "Rradical" and "Assembling dedicated pd computer" in the "member downloads/Pd projects" page
- move the "Software" to a root "/software" folder
- what is the state of the exhibition folder here only accessible to members?? Is it somehow related to the root "exhibiton" folder or can it be simply deleted
waiting a bit.
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
add redirections, specially for the download section.
I'm not sure how to do that. I'd like to make redirection for example from
http://puredata.info/community/patches
http://puredata.info/community/member-downloads/patches
but i'm not sure how to do it.
http://puredata.info/docs/sitedocs/MakingARedirectOrAlias
only explain how to redirect a folder. but what about a page or a smart folder? and for a folder, is the only text to change "THE_PAGE_TO_REDIRECT_TO"?,
THE_PAGE_TO_REDIRECT_TO -> http://puredata.info/community/member-downloads/patches
I think its just a URL redirect, so you just have to make the DTML Document have the same URL as the original you want to redirect, then make the redirect target the complete URL to whatever. So I made a DTML Dcoument in /community/, set the ID and Title to 'patches', then put the redirect content in it.

http://puredata.info/community/patches
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
In a second step, i'ld like to try to use page to describe local contents instead of "Frontpage" element. I'd first test in some testing subfolder before to modifiy existing folders. But I think the layout of a page is much more simple than the layout of a wiki "Frontpage", specially when we are not logged in.
http://puredata.info/community
When we are not logged in, the layout is much more clear.
But can every logged member still edit this page?
- how to add a local patching circle?
to keep things well organized.
Yes, looks much better already!

.hc


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