Discussion:
[Pdweb] Home page text content
Marco Donnarumma
2012-03-12 10:45:52 UTC
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So, I'm fiddling with the home page.
The textual content is clearly out of date.

I just moved up and down some paragraphs to give prominence to the real
thing first, and the geeky thing after.
Also added a mention about libpd and rjdj which was missing.
If there's anything political about that let me know and Ill take it out.

However, we need to reformulate this:
"Recent developments include a system of abstractions for building
performance environments; a library of objects for physical modeling; and a
library of objects for generating and processing video in realtime."

These are the "recent" developments from 2009 I take it.
Is somebody willing to reformulate this statements making it more related
to present advances?

I'm looking for some pics, possibly keeping the same subject of the old
pictures.
--
Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com |
http://www.flxer.net
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Nicolas Montgermont
2012-03-13 06:07:03 UTC
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Sorry I'm very busy at the moment and can't do as much as I want.

Here is a proposition for a new intro text:

Pure Data (aka Pd) is a real-time graphical programming environment for
audio, video, and graphical processing. It is the third major branch of
the family of patcher programming languages known as Max originally
developed by Miller Puckette and company at IRCAM. The core of Pd is
written and maintained by Miller Puckette and includes the work of many
developers, making the whole package very much a community effort.

Pd was created to explore ideas of how to further refine the Max
paradigm with the core ideas of allowing data to be treated in a more
open-ended way and opening it up to applications outside of audio and
MIDI. Pd offers a wide exploration field : realtime multimedia creation
(sound, video, 3D), physical interfacing (sensors, kinect, joystick),
motor control, data computing... and is used by a diverse community of
people: musicians, visual artist, researchers, developers, performers...

Pd is a free open source software software and is designed to be easily
extended by writing patches ("abstractions") or new objects
("externals") . The work of many developers is available as part of the
standard Pd packages and the Pd developer community is increasingly
growing. Pd was written to be multi-platform and therefore is very
portable; versions exist for Win32, IRIX, GNU/Linux, BSD, and MacOS X
running on anything from a PocketPC to an old Mac to a brand new
smartphone.

This Pd-Portal
This site is a contribution of the IEM to the Pd community. Everybody
using Pd is welcomed to join and write/contribute some documentation,
reports, news, announcing events and add comments.

n
Post by Marco Donnarumma
So, I'm fiddling with the home page.
The textual content is clearly out of date.
I just moved up and down some paragraphs to give prominence to the
real thing first, and the geeky thing after.
Also added a mention about libpd and rjdj which was missing.
If there's anything political about that let me know and Ill take it out.
"Recent developments include a system of abstractions for building
performance environments; a library of objects for physical modeling;
and a library of objects for generating and processing video in realtime."
These are the "recent" developments from 2009 I take it.
Is somebody willing to reformulate this statements making it more
related to present advances?
I'm looking for some pics, possibly keeping the same subject of the
old pictures.
--
Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/>
Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com
<http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/> | http://www.thesaddj.com
<http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/>
Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
<http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>
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Marco Donnarumma
2012-03-13 10:25:12 UTC
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looks good to me,
but we don't want to mention libpd or pd-anywhere?

that's a strong feature of Pd that not many other software have.
If it's political, then let's discuss it, but I think ppl should know about
this.

Also, the text (and also the old one) do not mention anything about how
really Pd works.
And I would like to see it mentioned on the home page.
It doesn't make much sense that if someone wants to do what Pd does, he has
to go round the website looking for info.
It should be clearly stated in the homepage imho...

thoughts?

M


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Nicolas Montgermont <
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
Sorry I'm very busy at the moment and can't do as much as I want.
Pure Data (aka Pd) is a real-time graphical programming environment for
audio, video, and graphical processing. It is the third major branch of the
family of patcher programming languages known as Max originally developed
by Miller Puckette and company at IRCAM. The core of Pd is written and
maintained by Miller Puckette and includes the work of many developers,
making the whole package very much a community effort.
Pd was created to explore ideas of how to further refine the Max paradigm
with the core ideas of allowing data to be treated in a more open-ended way
and opening it up to applications outside of audio and MIDI. Pd offers a
wide exploration field : realtime multimedia creation (sound, video, 3D),
physical interfacing (sensors, kinect, joystick), motor control, data
computing... and is used by a diverse community of people: musicians,
visual artist, researchers, developers, performers...
Pd is a free open source software software and is designed to be easily
extended by writing patches ("abstractions") or new objects ("externals") .
The work of many developers is available as part of the standard Pd
packages and the Pd developer community is increasingly growing. Pd was
written to be multi-platform and therefore is very portable; versions exist
for Win32, IRIX, GNU/Linux, BSD, and MacOS X running on anything from a
PocketPC to an old Mac to a brand new smartphone.
This Pd-Portal
This site is a contribution of the IEM to the Pd community. Everybody
using Pd is welcomed to join and write/contribute some documentation,
reports, news, announcing events and add comments.
n
So, I'm fiddling with the home page.
The textual content is clearly out of date.
I just moved up and down some paragraphs to give prominence to the real
thing first, and the geeky thing after.
Also added a mention about libpd and rjdj which was missing.
If there's anything political about that let me know and Ill take it out.
"Recent developments include a system of abstractions for building
performance environments; a library of objects for physical modeling; and a
library of objects for generating and processing video in realtime."
These are the "recent" developments from 2009 I take it.
Is somebody willing to reformulate this statements making it more related
to present advances?
I'm looking for some pics, possibly keeping the same subject of the old
pictures.
--
Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com |
http://www.flxer.net
Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
_______________________________________________
Pdweb mailing listPdweb at iem.athttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pdweb
--
http://nim.on.free.fr
_______________________________________________
Pdweb mailing list
Pdweb at iem.at
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pdweb
--
Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com |
http://www.flxer.net
Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
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Scott R. Looney
2012-03-13 11:05:27 UTC
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agreed - libpd and pd-anywhere should be mentioned (though pd-anywhere is
getting a bit old these days). how about something saying it being the
sound engine of the top selling game Spore?

scott
Post by Marco Donnarumma
looks good to me,
but we don't want to mention libpd or pd-anywhere?
that's a strong feature of Pd that not many other software have.
If it's political, then let's discuss it, but I think ppl should know
about this.
Also, the text (and also the old one) do not mention anything about how
really Pd works.
And I would like to see it mentioned on the home page.
It doesn't make much sense that if someone wants to do what Pd does, he
has to go round the website looking for info.
It should be clearly stated in the homepage imho...
thoughts?
M
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Nicolas Montgermont <
Post by Nicolas Montgermont
Sorry I'm very busy at the moment and can't do as much as I want.
Pure Data (aka Pd) is a real-time graphical programming environment for
audio, video, and graphical processing. It is the third major branch of the
family of patcher programming languages known as Max originally developed
by Miller Puckette and company at IRCAM. The core of Pd is written and
maintained by Miller Puckette and includes the work of many developers,
making the whole package very much a community effort.
Pd was created to explore ideas of how to further refine the Max paradigm
with the core ideas of allowing data to be treated in a more open-ended way
and opening it up to applications outside of audio and MIDI. Pd offers a
wide exploration field : realtime multimedia creation (sound, video, 3D),
physical interfacing (sensors, kinect, joystick), motor control, data
computing... and is used by a diverse community of people: musicians,
visual artist, researchers, developers, performers...
Pd is a free open source software software and is designed to be easily
extended by writing patches ("abstractions") or new objects ("externals") .
The work of many developers is available as part of the standard Pd
packages and the Pd developer community is increasingly growing. Pd was
written to be multi-platform and therefore is very portable; versions exist
for Win32, IRIX, GNU/Linux, BSD, and MacOS X running on anything from a
PocketPC to an old Mac to a brand new smartphone.
This Pd-Portal
This site is a contribution of the IEM to the Pd community. Everybody
using Pd is welcomed to join and write/contribute some documentation,
reports, news, announcing events and add comments.
n
So, I'm fiddling with the home page.
The textual content is clearly out of date.
I just moved up and down some paragraphs to give prominence to the real
thing first, and the geeky thing after.
Also added a mention about libpd and rjdj which was missing.
If there's anything political about that let me know and Ill take it out.
"Recent developments include a system of abstractions for building
performance environments; a library of objects for physical modeling; and a
library of objects for generating and processing video in realtime."
These are the "recent" developments from 2009 I take it.
Is somebody willing to reformulate this statements making it more related
to present advances?
I'm looking for some pics, possibly keeping the same subject of the old
pictures.
--
Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com |
http://www.flxer.net
Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
_______________________________________________
Pdweb mailing listPdweb at iem.athttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pdweb
--
http://nim.on.free.fr
_______________________________________________
Pdweb mailing list
Pdweb at iem.at
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pdweb
--
Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com |
http://www.flxer.net
Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
_______________________________________________
Pdweb mailing list
Pdweb at iem.at
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pdweb
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Nicolas Montgermont
2012-03-13 13:18:02 UTC
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Hello,

The proposition i made is totally open to discussion and correction (my
english is a bit crappy...)

I did not mention libpd or pd-anywhere cause there is no mention of any
pd projects in the text i've submitted: no Gem, no Pd-extended. In this
case, i see no reason to only mention libpd.
But you can add a paragraph or a sentence with the main projects (and i
agree, libpd is one of these)

I am totally against making publicity for electronic arts in this text:
keep in mind that it may be a copied text in many different contexts to
introduce pd.

You're right, it lacks a paragraph describing how a user work with pd.
Maybe between the second and the third ones?

Best
n
Post by Scott R. Looney
agreed - libpd and pd-anywhere should be mentioned (though
pd-anywhere is getting a bit old these days). how about something
saying it being the sound engine of the top selling game Spore?
scott
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Marco Donnarumma <devel at thesaddj.com
looks good to me,
but we don't want to mention libpd or pd-anywhere?
that's a strong feature of Pd that not many other software have.
If it's political, then let's discuss it, but I think ppl should
know about this.
Also, the text (and also the old one) do not mention anything
about how really Pd works.
And I would like to see it mentioned on the home page.
It doesn't make much sense that if someone wants to do what Pd
does, he has to go round the website looking for info.
It should be clearly stated in the homepage imho...
thoughts?
M
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Nicolas Montgermont
<nicolas_montgermont at yahoo.fr
Sorry I'm very busy at the moment and can't do as much as I want.
Pure Data (aka Pd) is a real-time graphical programming
environment for audio, video, and graphical processing. It is
the third major branch of the family of patcher programming
languages known as Max originally developed by Miller Puckette
and company at IRCAM. The core of Pd is written and maintained
by Miller Puckette and includes the work of many developers,
making the whole package very much a community effort.
Pd was created to explore ideas of how to further refine the
Max paradigm with the core ideas of allowing data to be
treated in a more open-ended way and opening it up to
applications outside of audio and MIDI. Pd offers a wide
exploration field : realtime multimedia creation (sound,
video, 3D), physical interfacing (sensors, kinect, joystick),
motor control, data computing... and is used by a diverse
community of people: musicians, visual artist, researchers,
developers, performers...
Pd is a free open source software software and is designed to
be easily extended by writing patches ("abstractions") or new
objects ("externals") . The work of many developers is
available as part of the standard Pd packages and the Pd
developer community is increasingly growing. Pd was written
to be multi-platform and therefore is very portable; versions
exist for Win32, IRIX, GNU/Linux, BSD, and MacOS X running on
anything from a PocketPC to an old Mac to a brand new smartphone.
This Pd-Portal
This site is a contribution of the IEM to the Pd community.
Everybody using Pd is welcomed to join and write/contribute
some documentation, reports, news, announcing events and add
comments.
n
Post by Marco Donnarumma
So, I'm fiddling with the home page.
The textual content is clearly out of date.
I just moved up and down some paragraphs to give prominence
to the real thing first, and the geeky thing after.
Also added a mention about libpd and rjdj which was missing.
If there's anything political about that let me know and Ill take it out.
"Recent developments include a system of abstractions for
building performance environments; a library of objects for
physical modeling; and a library of objects for generating
and processing video in realtime."
These are the "recent" developments from 2009 I take it.
Is somebody willing to reformulate this statements making it
more related to present advances?
I'm looking for some pics, possibly keeping the same subject
of the old pictures.
--
Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
<http://marcodonnarumma.com/>
Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com
<http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/> | http://www.thesaddj.com
<http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://www.flxer.net
<http://www.flxer.net/>
Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
<http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>
_______________________________________________
Pdweb mailing list
Pdweb at iem.at <mailto:Pdweb at iem.at>
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pdweb
--
http://nim.on.free.fr
_______________________________________________
Pdweb mailing list
Pdweb at iem.at <mailto:Pdweb at iem.at>
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pdweb
--
Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/>
Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com
<http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/> | http://www.thesaddj.com
<http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://www.flxer.net
<http://www.flxer.net/>
Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
<http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>
_______________________________________________
Pdweb mailing list
Pdweb at iem.at <mailto:Pdweb at iem.at>
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pdweb
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